Don Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 I recently added a large 4k monitor and the charts and text in Medved look quite fuzzy. I have played with all the Win 10 display settings with no improvement. Text on web pages and in other applications look very sharp and clear. Is there anyway to improve the sharpness in Medved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Medved Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Don, can you get the beta version, then try checking, or unchecking the option to do anti-aliasing for charts. SETTINGS / CHARTS / GENERAL - last checkbox. and let me know if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Medved Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Also - are you sizing your display's DPI to more than 100%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted November 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Win 10 with 4K display recommends/defaults to 150%, I had tried 100% scaling and the charts and text still looked a bit fuzzy. Win 10 also kept defaulting back to 150% when starting up. Now when I go back and set to 100% everything looks great! I will try the beta version and see if it offers additional improvements. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Medved Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 We have investigated this and going forward we definitely have to make MT a "DPI-aware" application, meaning it would scale nicely and sharply instead of the default scaling that Windows subjects it to, which fuzzes it out (for scales more than 100%). Not sure when that would happen. We will fit it in when we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock777 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Been using 3840 x 2160 on a 4K TV for years , never had a problem with sharpness at 125% Maybe you are using a different rez? 4096 x 2160 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Medved Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I researched this. What MT is using right now is the Windows compatibility mode, which, on the >100% basically renders to a behind-the-scenes bitmap, then stretches the bitmap. If you look really closely, that blurs things a little. Usually, since on a 4K display pixels are so close together, you really don't notice it. (I had to run high-DPI on a regular display in order to see the effect). It is possible to change things in MT to run in "DPI-aware" mode, I experimented with it, which would automatically change all font sizes and eliminate stretching. It will take redoing things on almost every window in MT, creating new graphics etc. Right now we have a bit on our plate. Maybe at some point, during a "quiet period"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Hi Jerry, Mike, MT does not seem to handle display scaling on high dpi screens well. Yes, everything remains legible, but it's a pain to look at. I think I mentioned this issue already 2-3 years ago to Jerry directly. In my specific case it's a 4K screen with 150% scaling. Which results in exactly what you described yourself: Originally sharp controls blown up by 150% with the same dpi count. I'm just a bit surprised with your conclusion that you have to "look really closely" to notice it, the numbers suggest otherwise. I tried to fiddle with the compatibility settings and leave the scaling up to the application. This does give you sharp text but it doesn't fit the respective containers (buttons, lines, labels etc.) any longer. So, it's either work without scaling - which is really not an option on 4K unless you have eagle eyes - or use MT with blurry controls. Anyway, I'm sure many of your users will appreciate it if MT were improved in this regard. For me personally, it's crucial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Medved Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 I understand, Vic. We researched this quite extensively and it would require redoing a LOT of MT in order to render things natively in DPI-aware mode. Windows really does not make it easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock777 Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 I use a 4k TV 43" at 125% which is enough Don't have any particular issue with MT at that setting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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