timtrader

Jerry, I spent quite a bit of time going back and forth between QT and MT to see what is acting differently with similar settings. To make sure my testing is accurate, I always cleared out all of the chart data before requesting new data (whether with manual backfill, or having the Auto Backfill setting turned on). In my QuoteTracker setup, I can enter a new symbol (no data already backfilled, and the symbol not already in the portfolio) and ALL 5 days of intraday 15-second chart data, including the most recent (current day) come back showing the OHLC bars on the 15-second chart (Whether I add a new symbol during and after market hours) I assume this works because of the Charts/Multi-day Timeframes setting, which “I think” states to get 2 days of tick data and consolidate the data after 2 days (this is where I have my intraday charts set to pull back 5 days of data). Perhaps this overrides the chart settings themselves which show that the chart type is OHLC, not TICK OHLC…..see below: Below is an example from QuoteTracker for symbol BAC which I never trade. Just in case, I cleared all of its data after entering the symbol in my worklist. Then I clicked the symbol to load the linked 15-second data in the chart. This filled 5 days of data in a second or two. The CPU only jumped from about 5 to 30% for a second or so. I also right-clicked the chart afterward to show that it is chart type OHLC, not TICK OHLC (though perhaps it uses tick data anyway in this case?) You can see that the OHLC bars are showing on the chart. (I scrolled back and saw that they were there for ALL 5 days, not just the most recent 2 days.) Below, I’m showing my QuoteTracker Backfill settings which show IQFeed and that the “Get TICK Backfill Data” box is not checked. (Again, I assume this is overridden in the Multi-Timeframes setting (5 consolidated OHLC days after 2 days) FYI, my CPU usage for QuoteTracker normally stays well below 50% throughout the vast majority of the day, even though there are 22 charts open at all times (most on a second monitor, seven historical, seven 3-minute, seven 1-minute, and one 15-second chart). Anyway, based on these QuoteTracker settings, is there an equivalent in MT to get the same results and not have to do anything special in order to get the OHLC bars to show on 15-second charts when a new symbol is added? I’d like to not use any more TICK data than QuoteTracker currently uses in order to keep the CPU usage in check. Thanks, Tim

Jerry, I made the settings you suggested and it does work. However, keep in mind that I don't really want tick data and am just trying to match my current QuoteTracker setup (7 historical charts, and 15 intraday charts - 7 are 3-minute, 7 are 1-minute, and 1 is 15-seconds.) I pull in 5 days of intraday data. In QuoteTracker I do not have the "Get TICK Backfill data" box checked, and the OHLC bars work on all charts, including the 15-second chart, even when a new symbol is added on the fly. (This is my goal to all of this.) My concern is that with the settings you suggested, my PC was often pegged at 100% CPU usage when the market was open (QuoteTracker has a very small footprint with the same charts mentioned above). I suspect this is because TICK data was streaming in for all of the charts in MT. If I use your method above, and follow it up with a 4th step to select "BACKFILL ALL Using OHLC data" on the portfolio.....am I correct in assuming that the feed going forward wouldn't be using tick data, but OHLC data instead, and return processing requirements to normal? (I'm sorry, its after hours so I can't try right now.) I'm wondering though, from that point forward, if I'd have to do the backfill option using TICK data for any new symbols that I add, and then do it again using OHLC data so the PC resources aren't pegged.....so its a bit of a dilemma. Thanks, Tim

Jerry, I think it would be a good idea to have a Chart/General option to Auto Backfill Intraday charts with TICK data. This is because with OHLC charts of less than 1 minute (like 15-second, 0.25 minute charts), the most recent day does not show the OHLC bars....even if you select the backfill with TICK data option on the chart itself, you get the same results. Currently the only way to show the OHLC bars for the current day on a chart of less than 1 minute bars is to first clear at least the current day's data, and then select the backfill with TICK data option....which is a bit of a pain when you're reviewing charts one at a time from a worklist or portfolio. I know the speed would be slower, but not bad if only a few days are selected. It might also work if the "Intraday OHLC Backfill - Number of Days" setting in "Data Sources/Configure Accounts" could be set to zero (it currently can't be set to less than 1), but that might be more confusing (perhaps other intraday charts wouldn't load any chart data if its set to zero.) Hope this helps. Thanks, Tim

I tested your intraday build as instructed. It works perfectly now!!! Thanks Much, Tim

OK, thanks. I use the standard Norton Security Suite for anti-virus, so nothing special in that area. Thanks, Tim

Jerry, I kept fiddling with this IQFeed problem and found the following. Restarting Medved Trader, or the PC makes no difference, chart data (unless previously loaded) won't load when a new symbol is added. When a new symbol is added all I get is the message "There is no data to chart".....this is after a fresh restart of Medved Trader. However, if I go to task manager and kill iqconnect.exe, the chart data will come up (Sometimes it takes numerous kills of iqconnect.exe before this begins to work). Once it starts working, it seems to keep working (adding new symbols and the chart data displays right away). Once I restart Medved Trader, I have to keep killing iqconnect until it starts working again. Please let me know if you'd like any other info from me.....a new log file, etc. Thanks, Tim

I forgot to mention, I'm running IQFeed version 5.1.0.3. Thanks, Tim

Jerry, As soon as I killed IQConnect, it loaded the currently displayed charts fine, but selecting another from my worklist didn't work (the windows are linked). Re-killing IQConnect didn't work either. The export file has been emailed to you. Thanks, Tim

Thanks for the info. Regarding #1, I still can't get IQFeed to work no matter what I try. Yes, I cleared all data, even rebooted my computer and only started Medved Trader after the reboot. I'll try a fresh install on Monday afternoon unless you'd like me to try something else first. Regarding #3, I had sent an email to TDA in mid-October when the news from them stopped in Quote Tracker. They said they did make a change to the news feed, but were no longer making any updates to QuoteTracker....I don't know what they changed though. Thanks, Tim

Jerry, First of all, this new platform looks really nice. I like all of the added flexibility and the intuitive interface.....it's coming along really nicely! I downloaded, installed, and banged on MedVed Trader quite a bit this weekend, so here are my initial findings. I'll email you my exported setting/log file shortly in case you need it: 1.) Data source - Initially set to "Smart" and I have accounts for both TD Ameritrade and IQFeed set up. I went back to change the number of days for IQFEED to 10, and changed both the Backfill source, and Historical Backfill source to IQFEED. I then cleared all of the Intraday and Historical data. At this point with only IQFeed selected, no chart data (Historical or intraday) will display, rather there is a message in the middle of each chart stating "There is no data to chart". I checked and re-checked my IQFeed ID and password numerous times, but this isn't the problem. (I also went back to QuoteTracker to make sure IQFeed is up and running, and it was.) The thing I noticed is that you can change the IQFeed ID/Password to something totally bogus, force re-login for it in the dashboard, and it will show a state of "streaming" and as status of "running". When I change the source back to TD Ameritrade, it works fine and the chart data displays. 2.) I created a 15-second chart (0.25 minutes) in OHLC format, but it is does not show the OHLC bar format, rather only a single dash. I tried numerous stock symbols and always get the same results. I also verified that the same works fine in QuoteTracker, so it's not a data issue. 3.) News is coming in fine from Yahoo and Google, but not TD Ameritrade. Also will you eventually be adding "TheFlyonthewall" as a news data source?.....it still works fine in QuoteTracker. 4.) The last bar of a historical chart in OHLC format is only showing the left arm (the open price) of the OHLC bar. At least that is what its showing this weekend for Friday's OHLC bar on any chart. 5.) When you have a chart minimized, save your current layout, close down MedVed Trader and then restart it, that chart opens back up to its "original" location....the layout doesn't open with that chart minimized. 6.) I had the news window hang several times and had to kill it with Task Manager since clicking the "X" in the upper right corner didn't work. It was acting like it was waiting for a response from something, but I couldn't just close the window when I didn't want to wait. 7.) I noticed that you have 8 available color links available for the Symbol Link Groups. With better broadband, faster PCs and more folks using multiple monitors, it might be nice to have considerably more than 8 available. 8.) For Level II, I'd like to be able to move the columns around but can't. I don't know if its not currently available, or if its because its the weekend and it is not currently displaying any Level II data. (I prefer to show the bid/ask price before the volume.) I hope this helps a bit and look forward to enhancements when they're ready. Thanks, Tim

Hello Jerry.....fulltime QuoteTracker trader here. I'd love to help out with beta testing. I currently use TD Ameritrade for my broker and IQFeed for quotes. Thanks, Tim