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MT is currently using 9 GB of RAM on my system (good thing I upgraded to 14 recently). It's growing fairly quickly too.

I had some performance issues today as well. I'll check the VM usage tomorrow during the day.

Nevermind on the previous close problem. It may be right. I guess the market dropped a bunch yesterday afternoon.

I have a problem this morning where the change column seems to be based on yesterday's Prv Cls. I've run into this problem with QT from time to time and sometimes changing the portfolio or quote source or restarting clears it up. This doesn't clear it up in MT though. I also ran into a hang on MT this morning. Quotes were updating but the program was unresponsive to button and menu clicks. Things were fine after a restart.

The little icon at the top left worked for me. Onto the indexes.

At least I learned about Size All Columns to Fit. Always nice to save some screen real-estate.

I have my portfolio stuff entered now so I'm not flying blind (I just had about half my charts showing but was using QT to see my positions). One suggestion would be the ability to enter Quantity and Paid right on the portfolio window. Right now I have to bring up the Dashboard, Open Edit Portfolios, and then enter the information. One of my trading friends is going with ToS for now. He misses QT (of course) but he just needs a few charts displayed and he thinks that he can work with ToS. I have another trading friend and I'll have to ask him what he's using.

Well, they told is it was shutting down in 2008 or 2009 I think - that is the distribution of the program. So I imagine that a lot of folks didn't really believe them this time.

I tried to just select it with the left mouse button. MT is running fine after the restart. I just have to finish adding my charts and portfolio information.

QT servers appear to have gone down this morning (they were working yesterday). I started up MT and it wasn't working but there was an update so I installed the update and it appears to work but I got an exception and a stackdump which is on my other system on a different network. I restarted it and it seems to be running though.

Our development environment is VM-based so that we can just move engineers around from machine to machine as needed. I created a Windows VM off a free Windows 7 license a few years ago and I can just copy the VM from machine to machine as I upgrade or change hardware platforms. I don't have to reinstall all of the software and move all of my projects from one machine to the next. I can also just put it on a Linux, Windows or Mac system. I don't have to do this for Mac systems as they don't have DRM on Apple hardware. BTW, I'd love a Mac OS X port of MT but I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.

My laptop has an SSD and 16 GB of RAM and MT (and just about everything else) runs fine on it. The target desktop has a HDD on it and I'm a bit undecided on whether or not I want to upgrade it or if it would make sense. I do have a spare SSD at home that I could try out but I need to check the motherboard specs on the system. There were a number of motherboards of this vintage (2008) that supported SATA II but they didn't recognize SATA III as it wasn't generally out yet. Unfortunately, some of these motherboards, downgrade to SATA I in this case so going from a HDD to a SSD can result in worse performance for high-bandwidth disk operations. I have a laptop that I upgraded and ran into this problem. It might be possible to fix it by adding a PCI SATA III card but I'd have to figure out if it were bootable. The desktop is on all the time so it would be likely that everything would remain in RAM and that performance for MT would be fine. My backup plan is to buy new hardware - new stuff is ridiculously cheap and fast compared to a decade ago.

I'm around 65% done working in a Virtual Machine on my laptop. The VM requires 5 GB of RAM so I had to upgrade my desktop. I'll bring in a high-def monitor to run it in. I should have all of my charts running by tomorrow except maybe for the indexes which might still be a work-in-progress. I should have left the trading desktop at Windows 7 instead of upgrading to 10. It's a lot easier to modify the title bar and it's objects on W7.

That worked though I wound up adding both options to the little double-arrow. It still would be nice to be able to save multiple chart templates though I guess I'll muck around to see if I can find a way to do that. I have about 40% of my charts up on the screen right now and I'll see how they look during the trading day. I have QT running in another Virtual Desktop for actual monitoring of everything. I lost one column as the minimum width is larger than it is with QT so I will either have to rearrange my charts, drop some things that I watch or bring in a monitor with higher resolution (I have several spare monitors at home). So far, so good, and I should be converted by the deadline. I'm adding a link to this forum thread on my homepage for reference. I normally make a notebook for things like this but a link might be more convenient.

Maybe a change on our firewall then. I don't plan to use that network regularly but it's useful for setup though it's a lot easier to set things up from home and I'm hoping I can move the configuration files to my desktop from my laptop. I found a small problem with using small chart windows. The part that allows you to save the chart as a template for other charts has to be open to do the save. However, it gets saved as the template and then I have to remove it. It would be nice if we had the old QT option where saving or loading a template is done with the right-click menu as opposed to having to find options here and there on the various pieces on the ribbon area.

I installed MT on my Windows 7 Virtual Machine and find that Windows 7 gives you more control over the Title Bar. I set the font down to 6 pixels and the Title Bar to 12 (smallest at that font size) and the result is that things are small. Maybe too small. I will probably go to 7 pixels for the font and 15 for the title bar and that should fit on my screen. I'm running this on a monitor with higher resolution (HD) so that helps. One other pleasant thing I discovered is that MT apparently communicates with Ameritrade's servers using different ports or protocols as the QT stuff was blocked on one the networks that I use (maybe everything is blocked?). MT works fine in this environment. Is it running through http or https now? So I have 25% of my things on MT on the VM and will have to decide where I want the VM, on my desktop or my laptop. So I have more options now. The advantage of running it on the W7 VM is that I can move the VM from machine to machine. Windows 10 has fewer options for setting things. I think that they went with the bigger title bar for the tablet mode where you need to be able to grab the title bar with your finger to move it around. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel to get my QT equivalent and I think that it will only take an hour of effort from here. I'm still waiting for the index display from QT but I'll use ToS or ATP for that until it's implemented.

The key thing helped quite a bit - thanks. I didn't know that you could drag the tiles and I'll give that a try if I like it better than having 80 small windows. I have not been successful at shrinking the title bar or the boxes and I'm giving some consideration to running MT in a Windows 7 VM to see how well that works. I probably don't want sorting as I'm trying to do six rows and 13 columns, each row holding charts for varying sectors. I guess I'd want all of the charts to always be in the same spot.

One thing that I noticed is that when you minimize the width of a chart window, you can't move it. I tried grabbing the title bar but there's nothing to grab. I also tried the icon/press Move command and this didn't work either. I have a workaround for this but it's a bit cumbersome to do. Also, in tile view, what's the sorting order? It would be nice to have alphabetical along with candles. I'm still working on shrinking the title bar vertically and the buttons horizontally.

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I just got about 12% converted over. Is that matrix chart view live or was that a preview? I couldn't find out how to set it up.

I'm still running QT as Ameritrade hasn't turned off their servers yet and I haven't converted over. I'm going to do that a little at a time.

I like the tile view as I basically do the same thing but with a bunch of small windows. This would definitely save screen real-estate by getting rid of the window borders and title bar. I'd still want the other items in the chart windows though: candlesticks, prices on the right, and current price.

I think that I can get things to work, similar to QT right now but I'll keep trying to shrink that title bar by playing with the Registry settings. I have three charts running so the payment process is definitely working. I read that Ameritrade's servers for QT go offline tomorrow so I'd like to get cut-over to MT by the end of the day. It would be nice if Ameritrade offered a deal similar to TradeKing or if they bought you out again. I have the feeling that they don't want to do that given how much investment they are putting into ToS. A trading friend asked me why I'm using a powerful trading tool like MT because I'm an investor more than a trader. I responded saying that I think that ToS is actually a lot more sophisticated than MT. But MT is far simpler to use and I can do what I want it to do fairly easily and in a minimum of clicks. It's kind of like iOS vs Android. One gives you a lot of flexibility and control but there are a lot of inconsistencies in the various tools. The other thing that I like is having multiple quote sources - you always want to have redundancy when trading, whether that's broadband service, hardware or quote services.

I used that article already to reduce the height of the titlebar but it didn't affect the width of the min/max/close buttons. I'll try to dig around the registry to see if there's something that can be done manually. QuoteTracker still has the small icons so it's possible that it's a build configuration issue. The reason for wanting the buttons to be smaller is that the window has to be above a certain width to be movable (needs a handle that isn't allocated to grab the window).

QuoteTracker (which I've depended on since around 2001) support from Ameritrade is ending in the next couple of days and I've looked at Ameritrade ToS (along with many trading friends) and Fidelity Active Trader Pro. I can not get ToS to do what I want it to do without adding a few monitors (you just cannot get compact charts with them), and ATP has the same problem. The only issues that I have with Medved are: - QuoteTracker allowed you to disable the horizontal scrollbar but I couldn't figure out how to do this in MT. Is this possible to configure or could it be added? I shrank it down to 3 pixels but getting rid of it would be the best option. - MT has large buttons for minimize, maximize and close window. Is there a way to change this? I've been around a lot of Windows settings and was able to shrink the Title Bar height but would like to shrink the buttons as well. These are not deal breakers as I don't feel that there are any other options for the trading that I do but would make things a little easier for me.