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Nevermind Jerry - I installed the latest update, and now everything is fine on the Vista box, "free" restriction stuff is gone and my 30 symbol watchlist portfolio is restored.

Well, that's the problem - on Vista SP1 I can't log in to my Ally Invest account, so can't pull up the Ally account view - appears something got broken somehow, although things worked fine after I installed the latest update you sent me on 12/21/17 for the TDA data source problem - which reminds me of something - it happened again this morning, TDA real time data wasn't updating, showed yesterday's close, and when I restarted MT that's when I saw the free portfolio restrictions. And as I mentioned above the same thing happened this morning on my Win10 box, where I do log in to Ally Invest on startup - only when I installed the latest update did the "limited portfolio view" stuff go away on the Win10 box. Guess I should try installing the latest update on the Vista PC and see if that helps, or do you want me to email you the log file again first?

MT locked up overnight, and when I restarted this morning I got two warning/error messages: Free Medved Trader accounts cannot have more than 20 symbols displayed in each portfolio. Please change your account one of the get paid subscription plans to get rid of this and other restrictions. And the attached screencap saying "free accounts cannot have more than two portfolio windows open" - this is intolerable - who instigated this change? I will close my Ally Invest account (just added more cash in it to started trading, now this?!?) if I cannot view my entire IRA holdings in a portfolio view, and my portfolio watchlist had at least 30 symbols as well. Wonder if this is possibly related to me still running MT on VIsta and not being able to log in to Ally Invest from the VIsta PC? Wait a second - to test that theory I just opened MT on the Win10 box, it asked to install an update, so I did it, now on Win10 box no warning messages or limits on portfolios - so is this an update issue (have not updated main app on Vista box), or an Ally login problem? I'm still a week or two away from moving to the Win10 box at a minimum, been much more difficult than I expected, plus spending way more time on other things than normal.

Just sent the log file to you.

Literally as soon as I sat down at my PC a few minutes ago got the error message TDA data wasn't updating - but it was actually frozen from yesterday, so MT was probably throwing the error for > 12 hrs, i just wasn't at the PC to see it. Restarted MT and the data was there immediately - but the 3rd time this week I had to do that. Appears the data stream gets interrupted when AH trading stops from what I'm seeing - timestamps for last trade are always 20:00 EDT, which is official close of AH. I hope this isn't a permanent change for TDA's API - I like to leave MT running 24/5, never close it until COB on Fridays. Just had a thought - is it possible to log off from TDA within MT, then log back in? I don't really see a way to do that at first glance.

TDA servers have gone down almost every day this week - I have to close MT and restart it, then for some odd reason the data comes through ok - what's up with that?

Edited my post, didn't expect you to answer in seconds, LOL. Good to know MT still has access to Yahoo data! BTW, finally bought a Win10 PC, just starting to move files and apps over to it - can I run MT from 2 PC's simultaneously while testing the new one (going to take > 1 month to migrate), and will the monthly payments stop automatically once I'm able to log in to Ally Invest on the new PC, or do I need to contact you to cancel the payments?

Wow - this Yahoo data embargo has wrecked damn near every historical data website on the net - just checked a bunch I have bookmarked for CEFs I own, every single one of them is returning "no data available" or has a diverted web page that something like " XXX is not currently available" - going to affect MT somewhat too, since IIRC a previous question I had for you was how to fill in "Avg. Vol" column, and solution was backfill with historical Yahoo data - I assume that's no longer going to work, and there's no replacement for the data unless you work out a deal with Yahoo to pay for it? Went to Yahoo Finance historical data for one of my stocks, and the "download to CSV" link is no longer at the top of the page, so this data embargo is not limited to Excel macros, it's a total embargo for all stock data downloads - I could still copy/paste into Excel, but that ain't gonna happen, too time consuming.. Can't download CEFConnect data either, which is really my biggest need - daily CEF premium/discounts.

"NAV - I think we get that now - shows in LAST" Last = last trade price, not NAV, AFAIK?

Thanks Jerry - the update fixed the missing ex-div dates. Another question - are you aware that Yahoo is now blocking very popular Excel macros from downloading delayed stock quotes and other data, some of which are very important to me and I'm sure many others - data for NAV, BV, P/B, or CEF discount/premiums - that stuff is critical to me, especially premium/discount #'s or calcs using BV to MP. I see MT does not have columns for that data either - any way to implement it, and more importantly, create the ability to export daily data into a CSV file Excel can read?

Late to this thread, but I also only see one entry for Dividend(s), for adjusting historical charts, which brings me to my own question - I have my charts set to show events earnings and dividends, but for one of my stocks that went ex-div on 10/27/17 the chart is not showing that one, historical backfill using a variety of sources didn't help - where does that data come from and how long should it take to show up in a chart?

Darnnit - TDA servers went down again - can't get L2 anywhere else either AFAIK?

Jerry, not getting any data from TDA -no quotes - all data is from Friday AH - anything I can do on my end short of using delayed Yahoo quotes since I still can't get Ally data to work yet? Edit: Nevermind - literally the second I hit "post" MT updated to real time data.

I went to TDA's website and opened up their data page, clicked on fundamentals, and it's showing the correct shrs out, 31.8M - MT still showing 240M - I can't find a way to clear the data for portfolios/watchlists, only for charts - am I missing something?

A stock of mine did a 1:10 RS on June 19, 2017, I manually adjusted the cost basis in my watchlists that I use as portfolios (not actual TDA account numbers), but the shares outstanding column still shows the old share count, 10 times what it should be - I tried backfilling with a variety of sources (all of the one available to me), and no joy - still have incorrect share count.- how do I fix this?

I don't see a "refresh" button upper left, just a "start quotes/stop quotes" icon in that location - it's like stoplight, green when real time quotes are coming in from TDA. Figured out what I think you meant for me to do though - I clicked on "Main", the "Source", changed it to Yahoo, then MC and shrs out filled in, got the "quotes delayed" icon next to each symbol, then switched source back to TDA for real time instead of delayed quotes. Oddly, two symbols, ARNA and AMRN, still showed "delayed quotes" next to them after the switch back to TDA source, could be some artifact? I assume every time I start MT I'd have to do this temp switch, or will shrs out and MC data be stored and available the next time I start MT? Answer to your last question, which symbols didn't fill from Yahoo, I think I know why those are blank - they're all CEFs or ETFs, and shrs out at a given time of day isn't really a known value - a CEF can issue new shares at any time if they have a DRIP, and ETFs can create new units whenever there's demand for them, and their NAV isn't known until after COB on every day. That's not really a problem from my POV.

Don't have Yahoo set to use HTML quotes, tried back filling using Yahoo as source, got shrs out and market cap for ~ 1/3 of a watchlist, but nothing filled in my actual account portfolios, although I could see an icon saying "backfilling X Y Z", ran through all symbols then stopped. Weird - can't make heads or tails what stocks/funds that did show shrs out and MC and those that didn't. Don't have access to the others you listed, still working on TK/SP2 problem.

Jerry, I've tried using multiple data sources available to me - Google Finance, TDA, SmartSource (no idea where that data comes from), and Yahoo Finance - none of them will show shares outstanding for my portfolios. These are the data sources available to me - does the non-green stick pin icon on the right hand side mean these feeds are not available? I did search the forums and find the trick for showing previous volume (or avg. vol?) using historical backfill, but that doesn't work for shrs out. I see TDA doesn't have a column under "change view", for shrs out, so that's probably why using TDA as data source doesn't work - but Yahoo does show the data, at least on the Key Stats page, and Google shows "Shares" and other info directly under the stock name/symbol as shown below - is this data not in a "feed" that MT can read? 3.35 +0.03 (0.90%) After Hours: 3.35 0.00 (0.00%) Feb 8, 4:36PM EST NASDAQ real-time data - Disclaimer Currency in USD Range 3.26 - 3.39 52 week 1.24 - 3.65 Open 3.39 Vol / Avg. 2.05M/1.55M Mkt cap 904.34M P/E - Div/yield - EPS -0.43 Shares 269.95M Beta 0.88 Inst. own 42%

Thanks - that's what I thought - if/when I start trading in TK account, will leave that initial $500 in cash alone.

Jerry, quick question - to gain free use of MT by having a TradeKing account your site says "* $500 minimum balance required in order to get Medved Trader full Premium access for free." - does that mean you have to have assets worth $500 or more, or just to have deposited a minimum of $500 with TK? Reason I ask is I currently have $500 cash sitting in my TK account while still struggling to get my SP2 problems resolved, and I wonder if I bought $500 worth of stock in that account, but the pps dropped, leaving me with < $500 in assets in TK, would that then disqualify me from free access to MT?

Ok, thanks, will just ignore it then, doesn't hamper the function of the rest of the app - I assume it actually doesn't have anything to do with the amount of RAM I have, or priority assigned to the MT process?

Just got home, noticed that the ribbon status bar showed current time was 13:55, and the portfolio window I have open that contains the 3 major indexes had an error alert icon on it, and while the mouse was hovering over that window the hourglass icon was showing - clicked on the "error" icon and got this - bizarre, says error occurred in the future? Stranger still, nothing wrong with the main app, all other open portfolio windows have last trade times updated correctly, 16:00 for those with no AH trades or whatever time the last AH trade was made - text of error message is below - is this a bug? 11/16/16 10:29:23 PM: MT.Util.MTErrorObj: Type=Error Severity=Medium Action=Log, ShowIndicator Code=FullRecalc - THREAD - EXCEPTION: Symbol=$SPX.X Message=Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. Details=AppVer: 1.1.1710.1558 Err.Flags: Log, ShowIndicator System.OutOfMemoryException: at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.set_Capacity(Int32 value) at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.EnsureCapacity(Int32 min) at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.Add(T item) at MT.ChartDataObject._fullRecalcCandle(Boolean OnlyPartial, Boolean IsTick, Int32 restartCount) in C:\MedvedTrader\MT\ChartDataObject.cs:line 2311 at MT.ChartDataObject._fullRecalcThreadMain() in C:\MedvedTrader\MT\ChartDataObject.cs:line 1308

Got a "system out of memory" error when I tried to close/restart MT - that's the problem with the hourglass icon - haven't seen that problem before. Where do I email the logfile?

Have noticed occasionally one of my watchlist windows appears sort of hung - it's not, quotes are updating on time, but when I put the focus on that one portfolio window I see the Windows hourglass "wait" icon hovering over that window, but not on any other open windows/tabs - what's the app doing that's causing this? Also get a warning from a Task Info app I run saying "This digital signature is not valid", certificate for MT.exe is invalid - doesn't appear to affect the function of MT, but my PC isn't happy about running what it thinks is an insecure app. - thoughts or comments on what might be causing either problem and how to diagnose or fix them?

Jerry, I have been dealing with the same issue, but an even more bizarre one. I login to TDA automatically when MT starts, and use custom watchlists set up as portfolios for my TDA accounts, also have a "real" watchlist of stocks under consideration for buying. That watchlist had an empty column for avg. volume, and trying historical backfill like you suggested (using Smartsource) locked up the data feed to the watchlist, clicking on "cancel hist. backfill" did nothing, had to close and restart the program, which is when I noticed something different - I have the ribbon minimized for the two windows showing my TDA accounts, but it was visible in the watchlist window - I noticed the "source" item just below the portfolio name showed TDA, so I clicked on it and switched it to Yahoo Finance - voila! Avg. volume instantly backfilled. The oddity is that I have TDA as source for my two "faked" accounts as well, but avg. volume shows up on those windows - how can this be? TDA doesn't appear to supply avg. volume, or at least it's not available when you try to customize your portfolio view on the TDA webpage. In any case, for others who might experience this problem, maximize the ribbon and try selecting a different data source - Yahoo worked for me. Oops - wait a second - just went back and looked at that watchlist, noticed that there was a tiny icon next to the symbols showing data was delayed, because the source was Yahoo - changed it back to TDA, got back real time data, and avg. volume is still there, but I'm guessing it won't be updated over time? Won't really know for a while, as Yahoo uses 3 months to calculate avg. volume. P.S. Still working on updating to SP2, think I may have found a solution - ran the Vista System Readiness tool I found online yesterday, discovered I was missing an update needed to install SP2, will try again this weekend. One critical other thing I discovered - if you have backup apps running in the background that use Windows System Restore files like I do (Macrium Reflect), Vista SP2 will fail at the third stage and revert back to SP1. Closing those processes prior to running the SP2 upgrade doesn't help, because the PC reboots between each stage, which restarts them on the first and second reboot - you need to run MSConfig.exe, go to Services tab, click on "hide MS services", then disable what's left - the backup app I use starts via the registry, not the Startup group directory, so you have to disable it in this manner, it's the only way that works. Will see if this method works this weekend - I assume TradeKing data feed provides avg. volume w/o the delay on real time quotes like Yahoo has?